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===-Original GCN/Wii through second holiday comparison=== | |||
For some people's complaints about Nintendo not focusing on "real" games enough, it seems they've got more than they did with GamCube, even before we know what they'll show at E3. For GameCube I think I've got all NOA-released titles for 2001 and 2002. For Wii I've listed titles with 2007 NOA release dates. | For some people's complaints about Nintendo not focusing on "real" games enough, it seems they've got more than they did with GamCube, even before we know what they'll show at E3. For GameCube I think I've got all NOA-released titles for 2001 and 2002. For Wii I've listed titles with 2007 NOA release dates. | ||
'''Series showing up on both; a wash''' | |||
|| | ||''Mario Party 4''|''Mario Party 8'' | ||
Metroid Prime|Metroid Prime 3: Corruption | Metroid Prime|Metroid Prime 3: Corruption | ||
| Line 10: | Line 12: | ||
Super Mario Sunshine|Super Mario Galaxy | Super Mario Sunshine|Super Mario Galaxy | ||
Super Smash Bros. Melee|Super Smash Bros. Brawl | '''2 traditional'''|'''2 traditional''' | ||
'''1 nontraditional'''|'''1 nontraditional'''|| | |||
'''GameCube vs Wii''' | |||
||''Animal Crossing''|Battalion Wars 2 | |||
Eternal Darkness: Sanity's Requiem|''Big Brain Academy: Wii Degree'' | |||
Luigi's Mansion|Donkey Kong Barrel Blast | |||
''Magical Mirror Starring Mickey Mouse''|Excite Truck | |||
NBA Courtside 2002|Fire Emblem | |||
Pikmin|The Legend of Zelda: Twilight Princess | |||
Star Fox Adventures|Mario Strikers Charged | |||
Super Smash Bros. Melee|Pokémon Battle Revolution | |||
Wave Race: Blue Storm|Super Paper Mario | |||
|''WarioWare: Smooth Moves'' | |||
|''Wii Play'' | |||
|''Wii Sports'' | |||
'''7 traditional'''|'''8 traditional''' | |||
'''2 nontraditional'''|'''4 nontraditional'''|| | |||
'''Total''' | |||
||GameCube|Wii | |||
'''9 traditional'''|'''10 traditional''' | |||
'''3 nontraditional'''|'''5 nontraditional'''|| | |||
Italicizing those titles that frequently get derided for being nongames, kiddy games, or minigame fests by the hardcore, Wii leads GameCube on both counts. | |||
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===-Yearly Comparisons=== | |||
I above combined things in 2001+2002 and 2006+2007 to talk about overall statistics, but here's how things would be split between years and not sticking series showing up on both into a separate category. | |||
'''Year 1''' | |||
||'''N64 1996'''|'''GCN 2001'''|'''Wii 2006''' | |||
Cruis'n USA|Luigi's Mansion|Excite Truck | |||
Killer Instinct Gold|Pikmin|The Legend of Zelda: Twilight Princess | |||
Pilotwings 64|Super Smash Bros. Melee|''Wii Sports'' | |||
Star Wars: Shadows of the Empire|Wave Race: Blue Storm| | |||
Super Mario 64| | | |||
Wave Race 64: Kawasaki Jet Ski| | | |||
'''6 traditional'''|'''4 traditional'''|'''2 traditional''' | |||
'''0 nontraditional'''|'''0 nontraditional'''|'''1 nontraditional'''|| | |||
N64 > GameCube > Wii in total and traditional. Worth noting N64 was out two more months than GCN and Wii the first year. | |||
'''Year 2''' | |||
||'''N64 1997'''|'''GCN 2002'''|'''Wii 2007''' | |||
Blast Corps|''Animal Crossing''|Battalion Wars 2 | |||
Bomberman 64|Eternal Darkness: Sanity's Requiem|''Big Brain Academy: Wii Degree'' | |||
Cruis'n World|''Magical Mirror Starring Mickey Mouse''|Donkey Kong Barrel Blast | |||
Diddy Kong Racing|''Mario Party 4''|Fire Emblem | |||
GoldenEye 007|Metroid Prime|''Mario Party 8'' | |||
Mario Kart 64|NBA Courtside 2002|Mario Strikers Charged | |||
Mischief Makers|Star Fox Adventures|Metroid Prime 3: Corruption | |||
Star Fox 64|Super Mario Sunshine|Pokémon Battle Revolution | |||
Tetrisphere| |Super Mario Galaxy | |||
| |Super Paper Mario | |||
| |''WarioWare: Smooth Moves'' | |||
| |''Wii Play'' | |||
'''9 traditional'''|'''5 traditional'''|'''8 traditional''' | |||
15 cumulative|9 cumulative|10 cumulative | |||
'''0 nontraditional'''|'''3 nontraditional'''|'''4 nontraditional''' | |||
0 cumulative|3 cumulative|5 cumulative|| | |||
Traditional for the year: N64 > Wii > GCN | |||
Traditional cumulative: N64 > Wii > GCN | |||
Nontraditional for the year: Wii > GCN > N64 | |||
Nontraditional cumulative: Wii > GCN > N64 | |||
Total for the year: Wii > N64 > GCN | |||
Total cumulative: Wii = N64 > GCN | |||
'''Year 3''' | |||
||'''N64 1998'''|'''GCN 2003'''|'''Wii 2008''' | |||
1080° Snowboarding|1080° Avalanche|''Animal Crossing: City Folk'' | |||
Banjo-Kazooie|F-Zero GX|''Endless Ocean'' | |||
Cruis'n World|''Kirby Air Ride''|Mario Kart Wii | |||
F-1 World Grand Prix|The Legend of Zelda: The Wind Waker|Mario Super Sluggers | |||
F-Zero X|Mario Golf: Toadstool Tour|Super Smash Bros. Brawl | |||
Kobe Bryant in NBA Courtside|Mario Kart: Double Dash!!|Wario Land: Shake It! | |||
The Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time|''Mario Party 5''|''Wii Fit'' | |||
Star Wars: Rogue Squadron|''Pokémon Channel''|''Wii Music'' | |||
Walalae Country Club: True Golf Classics|Wario World| | |||
Yoshi's Story| | | |||
'''10 traditional'''|'''6 traditional'''|'''4 traditional''' | |||
25 cumulative|15 cumulative|14 cumulative | |||
'''0 nontraditional'''|'''3 nontraditional'''|'''4 nontraditional''' | |||
0 cumulative|6 cumulative|9 cumulative|| | |||
Plus these 2008 WiiWare games from Nintendo: | |||
ArtStyle: ORBIENT | |||
ArtStyle: (Unknown) | |||
ArtStyle: (Unknown) | |||
Dr. Mario RX Online | |||
Magnetica Twist | |||
''My Pokémon Ranch'' | |||
'''Year 4''' | |||
||'''N64 1999'''|'''GCN 2004'''|'''Wii 2009''' | |||
Command and Conquer|Custom Robo| | |||
Donkey Kong 64|Donkey Konga| | |||
Jet Force Gemini|Final Fantasy: Crystal Chronicles| | |||
Ken Griffey Jr.'s Slugfest|The Legend of Zelda: Four Swords Adventures| | |||
Kobe Bryant in NBA Courtside 2|Mario Party 6| | |||
Mario Golf|Mario Power Tennis| | |||
Mario Party|Metroid Prime 2: Echoes| | |||
The New Tetris|Paper Mario: The Thousand-Year Door| | |||
Pokémon Snap|Pikmin 2| | |||
Star Wars Episode One: Racer|Pokémon Box Ruby and Sapphire| | |||
Super Smash Bros.|Pokémon Colosseum| | |||
|WarioWare Inc.: Mega Party Game$| | |||
'''X traditional'''|'''X traditional'''|'''X traditional''' | |||
X cumulative|X cumulative|X cumulative | |||
'''X nontraditional'''|'''X nontraditional'''|'''X nontraditional''' | |||
X cumulative|X cumulative|X cumulative|| | |||
'''Year 5''' | |||
||'''N64 2000'''|'''GCN 2005'''|'''Wii 2010''' | |||
Banjo Tooie|Battalion Wars| | |||
Cruis'n Exotica|Dance Dance Revolution: Mario Mix| | |||
Excitebike 64|Donkey Kong Jungle Beat| | |||
Hey You, Pikachu!|Donkey Konga 2| | |||
Kirby 64: The Crystal Shards|Fire Emblem: Path of Radiance| | |||
The Legend of Zelda: Majora's Mask|Geist| | |||
|| | Mario Party 2|Mario Party 7| | ||
Mario Tennis 64|Mario Superstar Baseball| | |||
Mickey's Speedway USA|Pokémon XD: Gale of Darkness| | |||
Perfect Dark|Star Fox: Assault| | |||
Pokémon Puzzle League|Super Mario Strikers| | |||
Pokémon Stadium| | | |||
Ridge Racer 64| | | |||
StarCraft| | | |||
'''X traditional'''|'''X traditional'''|'''X traditional''' | |||
X cumulative|X cumulative|X cumulative | |||
| | '''X nontraditional'''|'''X nontraditional'''|'''X nontraditional''' | ||
| | X cumulative|X cumulative|X cumulative|| | ||
'''Year 6''' | |||
|'''Wii | ||'''N64 2001'''|'''GCN 2006'''|'''Wii 2011''' | ||
| | Conker's Bad Fur Day|Baten Kaitos Origins| | ||
Dr. Mario|Chibi-Robo| | |||
Mario Party 3|The Legend of Zelda: Twilight Princess| | |||
Pokémon Stadium 2|Odama| | |||
|| | '''X traditional'''|'''X traditional'''|'''X traditional''' | ||
X cumulative|X cumulative|X cumulative | |||
'''X nontraditional'''|'''X nontraditional'''|'''X nontraditional''' | |||
X cumulative|X cumulative|X cumulative|| | |||
Latest revision as of 21:39, 16 April 2023
-Original GCN/Wii through second holiday comparison
For some people's complaints about Nintendo not focusing on "real" games enough, it seems they've got more than they did with GamCube, even before we know what they'll show at E3. For GameCube I think I've got all NOA-released titles for 2001 and 2002. For Wii I've listed titles with 2007 NOA release dates.
Series showing up on both; a wash
||Mario Party 4|Mario Party 8
Metroid Prime|Metroid Prime 3: Corruption
Super Mario Sunshine|Super Mario Galaxy
2 traditional|2 traditional
1 nontraditional|1 nontraditional||
GameCube vs Wii
||Animal Crossing|Battalion Wars 2
Eternal Darkness: Sanity's Requiem|Big Brain Academy: Wii Degree
Luigi's Mansion|Donkey Kong Barrel Blast
Magical Mirror Starring Mickey Mouse|Excite Truck
NBA Courtside 2002|Fire Emblem
Pikmin|The Legend of Zelda: Twilight Princess
Star Fox Adventures|Mario Strikers Charged
Super Smash Bros. Melee|Pokémon Battle Revolution
Wave Race: Blue Storm|Super Paper Mario
|WarioWare: Smooth Moves
|Wii Play
|Wii Sports
7 traditional|8 traditional
2 nontraditional|4 nontraditional||
Total
||GameCube|Wii
9 traditional|10 traditional
3 nontraditional|5 nontraditional||
Italicizing those titles that frequently get derided for being nongames, kiddy games, or minigame fests by the hardcore, Wii leads GameCube on both counts.
---
-Yearly Comparisons
I above combined things in 2001+2002 and 2006+2007 to talk about overall statistics, but here's how things would be split between years and not sticking series showing up on both into a separate category.
Year 1
||N64 1996|GCN 2001|Wii 2006
Cruis'n USA|Luigi's Mansion|Excite Truck
Killer Instinct Gold|Pikmin|The Legend of Zelda: Twilight Princess
Pilotwings 64|Super Smash Bros. Melee|Wii Sports
Star Wars: Shadows of the Empire|Wave Race: Blue Storm|
Super Mario 64| |
Wave Race 64: Kawasaki Jet Ski| |
6 traditional|4 traditional|2 traditional
0 nontraditional|0 nontraditional|1 nontraditional||
N64 > GameCube > Wii in total and traditional. Worth noting N64 was out two more months than GCN and Wii the first year.
Year 2
||N64 1997|GCN 2002|Wii 2007
Blast Corps|Animal Crossing|Battalion Wars 2
Bomberman 64|Eternal Darkness: Sanity's Requiem|Big Brain Academy: Wii Degree
Cruis'n World|Magical Mirror Starring Mickey Mouse|Donkey Kong Barrel Blast
Diddy Kong Racing|Mario Party 4|Fire Emblem
GoldenEye 007|Metroid Prime|Mario Party 8
Mario Kart 64|NBA Courtside 2002|Mario Strikers Charged
Mischief Makers|Star Fox Adventures|Metroid Prime 3: Corruption
Star Fox 64|Super Mario Sunshine|Pokémon Battle Revolution
Tetrisphere| |Super Mario Galaxy
| |Super Paper Mario
| |WarioWare: Smooth Moves
| |Wii Play
9 traditional|5 traditional|8 traditional
15 cumulative|9 cumulative|10 cumulative
0 nontraditional|3 nontraditional|4 nontraditional
0 cumulative|3 cumulative|5 cumulative||
Traditional for the year: N64 > Wii > GCN
Traditional cumulative: N64 > Wii > GCN
Nontraditional for the year: Wii > GCN > N64
Nontraditional cumulative: Wii > GCN > N64
Total for the year: Wii > N64 > GCN
Total cumulative: Wii = N64 > GCN
Year 3
||N64 1998|GCN 2003|Wii 2008
1080° Snowboarding|1080° Avalanche|Animal Crossing: City Folk
Banjo-Kazooie|F-Zero GX|Endless Ocean
Cruis'n World|Kirby Air Ride|Mario Kart Wii
F-1 World Grand Prix|The Legend of Zelda: The Wind Waker|Mario Super Sluggers
F-Zero X|Mario Golf: Toadstool Tour|Super Smash Bros. Brawl
Kobe Bryant in NBA Courtside|Mario Kart: Double Dash!!|Wario Land: Shake It!
The Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time|Mario Party 5|Wii Fit
Star Wars: Rogue Squadron|Pokémon Channel|Wii Music
Walalae Country Club: True Golf Classics|Wario World|
Yoshi's Story| |
10 traditional|6 traditional|4 traditional
25 cumulative|15 cumulative|14 cumulative
0 nontraditional|3 nontraditional|4 nontraditional
0 cumulative|6 cumulative|9 cumulative||
Plus these 2008 WiiWare games from Nintendo:
ArtStyle: ORBIENT
ArtStyle: (Unknown)
ArtStyle: (Unknown)
Dr. Mario RX Online
Magnetica Twist
My Pokémon Ranch
Year 4
||N64 1999|GCN 2004|Wii 2009
Command and Conquer|Custom Robo|
Donkey Kong 64|Donkey Konga|
Jet Force Gemini|Final Fantasy: Crystal Chronicles|
Ken Griffey Jr.'s Slugfest|The Legend of Zelda: Four Swords Adventures|
Kobe Bryant in NBA Courtside 2|Mario Party 6|
Mario Golf|Mario Power Tennis|
Mario Party|Metroid Prime 2: Echoes|
The New Tetris|Paper Mario: The Thousand-Year Door|
Pokémon Snap|Pikmin 2|
Star Wars Episode One: Racer|Pokémon Box Ruby and Sapphire|
Super Smash Bros.|Pokémon Colosseum|
|WarioWare Inc.: Mega Party Game$|
X traditional|X traditional|X traditional
X cumulative|X cumulative|X cumulative
X nontraditional|X nontraditional|X nontraditional
X cumulative|X cumulative|X cumulative||
Year 5
||N64 2000|GCN 2005|Wii 2010
Banjo Tooie|Battalion Wars|
Cruis'n Exotica|Dance Dance Revolution: Mario Mix|
Excitebike 64|Donkey Kong Jungle Beat|
Hey You, Pikachu!|Donkey Konga 2|
Kirby 64: The Crystal Shards|Fire Emblem: Path of Radiance|
The Legend of Zelda: Majora's Mask|Geist|
Mario Party 2|Mario Party 7|
Mario Tennis 64|Mario Superstar Baseball|
Mickey's Speedway USA|Pokémon XD: Gale of Darkness|
Perfect Dark|Star Fox: Assault|
Pokémon Puzzle League|Super Mario Strikers|
Pokémon Stadium| |
Ridge Racer 64| |
StarCraft| |
X traditional|X traditional|X traditional
X cumulative|X cumulative|X cumulative
X nontraditional|X nontraditional|X nontraditional
X cumulative|X cumulative|X cumulative||
Year 6
||N64 2001|GCN 2006|Wii 2011
Conker's Bad Fur Day|Baten Kaitos Origins|
Dr. Mario|Chibi-Robo|
Mario Party 3|The Legend of Zelda: Twilight Princess|
Pokémon Stadium 2|Odama|
X traditional|X traditional|X traditional
X cumulative|X cumulative|X cumulative
X nontraditional|X nontraditional|X nontraditional
X cumulative|X cumulative|X cumulative||