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For some people's complaints about Nintendo not focusing on "real" games enough, it seems they've got more than they did with GamCube, even before we know what they'll show at E3.  For GameCube I think I've got all NOA-released titles for 2001 and 2002.  For Wii I've listed titles with dates or that seem pretty sure things for an American release in 2007.
===-Original GCN/Wii through second holiday comparison===


Series showing up on both:
For some people's complaints about Nintendo not focusing on "real" games enough, it seems they've got more than they did with GamCube, even before we know what they'll show at E3.  For GameCube I think I've got all NOA-released titles for 2001 and 2002.  For Wii I've listed titles with 2007 NOA release dates.


Mario Party 4 - Mario Party 8
'''Series showing up on both; a wash'''


Metroid Prime - Metroid Prime 3: Corruption
||''Mario Party 4''|''Mario Party 8''


Super Mario Sunshine - Super Mario Galaxy
Metroid Prime|Metroid Prime 3: Corruption


Super Smash Bros. Melee - Super Smash Bros. Brawl
Super Mario Sunshine|Super Mario Galaxy


===GameCube===
'''2 traditional'''|'''2 traditional'''


'''Animal Crossing'''
'''1 nontraditional'''|'''1 nontraditional'''||


Eternal Darkness: Sanity's Requiem
'''GameCube vs Wii'''


Luigi's Mansion
||''Animal Crossing''|Battalion Wars 2


'''Magical Mirror Starring Mickey Mouse'''
Eternal Darkness: Sanity's Requiem|''Big Brain Academy: Wii Degree''


NBA Courtside 2002
Luigi's Mansion|Donkey Kong Barrel Blast


Pikmin
''Magical Mirror Starring Mickey Mouse''|Excite Truck


Star Fox Adventures
NBA Courtside 2002|Fire Emblem


Wave Race: Blue Storm
Pikmin|The Legend of Zelda: Twilight Princess


===Wii===
Star Fox Adventures|Mario Strikers Charged


Battalion Wars II
Super Smash Bros. Melee|Pokémon Battle Revolution


'''Big Brain Academy: Wii Degree'''
Wave Race: Blue Storm|Super Paper Mario


Excite Truck
|''WarioWare: Smooth Moves''


The Legend of Zelda: Twilight Princess
|''Wii Play''


Mario Strikers Charged
|''Wii Sports''


Pokémon Battle Revolution
'''7 traditional'''|'''8 traditional'''


Super Paper Mario
'''2 nontraditional'''|'''4 nontraditional'''||


'''WarioWare: Smooth Moves'''
'''Total'''


'''Wii Play'''
||GameCube|Wii


'''Wii Sports'''
'''9 traditional'''|'''10 traditional'''


Bolding those titles that frequently get derided for being nongames, kiddy games, or minigame fests by the hardcore, it leaves an equal amount of "regular games" for both systems.
'''3 nontraditional'''|'''5 nontraditional'''||


It's possible a Wii title like Super Mario Galaxy could end up pushed out of 2007, but E3 announcements for games like Fire Emblem should leave the list as long or longer than it appears here.
Italicizing those titles that frequently get derided for being nongames, kiddy games, or minigame fests by the hardcore, Wii leads GameCube on both counts.
 
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===-Yearly Comparisons===
 
I above combined things in 2001+2002 and 2006+2007 to talk about overall statistics, but here's how things would be split between years and not sticking series showing up on both into a separate category.
 
'''Year 1'''
 
||'''N64 1996'''|'''GCN 2001'''|'''Wii 2006'''
 
Cruis'n USA|Luigi's Mansion|Excite Truck
 
Killer Instinct Gold|Pikmin|The Legend of Zelda: Twilight Princess
 
Pilotwings 64|Super Smash Bros. Melee|''Wii Sports''
 
Star Wars: Shadows of the Empire|Wave Race: Blue Storm|
 
Super Mario 64| |
 
Wave Race 64: Kawasaki Jet Ski| |
 
'''6 traditional'''|'''4 traditional'''|'''2 traditional'''
 
'''0 nontraditional'''|'''0 nontraditional'''|'''1 nontraditional'''||
 
N64 > GameCube > Wii in total and traditional.  Worth noting N64 was out two more months than GCN and Wii the first year.
 
'''Year 2'''
 
||'''N64 1997'''|'''GCN 2002'''|'''Wii 2007'''
 
Blast Corps|''Animal Crossing''|Battalion Wars 2
 
Bomberman 64|Eternal Darkness: Sanity's Requiem|''Big Brain Academy: Wii Degree''
 
Cruis'n World|''Magical Mirror Starring Mickey Mouse''|Donkey Kong Barrel Blast
 
Diddy Kong Racing|''Mario Party 4''|Fire Emblem
 
GoldenEye 007|Metroid Prime|''Mario Party 8''
 
Mario Kart 64|NBA Courtside 2002|Mario Strikers Charged
 
Mischief Makers|Star Fox Adventures|Metroid Prime 3: Corruption
 
Star Fox 64|Super Mario Sunshine|Pokémon Battle Revolution
 
Tetrisphere| |Super Mario Galaxy
 
| |Super Paper Mario
 
| |''WarioWare: Smooth Moves''
 
| |''Wii Play''
 
'''9 traditional'''|'''5 traditional'''|'''8 traditional'''
 
15 cumulative|9 cumulative|10 cumulative
 
'''0 nontraditional'''|'''3 nontraditional'''|'''4 nontraditional'''
 
0 cumulative|3 cumulative|5 cumulative||
 
Traditional for the year: N64 > Wii > GCN
 
Traditional cumulative: N64 > Wii > GCN
 
Nontraditional for the year: Wii > GCN > N64
 
Nontraditional cumulative: Wii > GCN > N64
 
Total for the year: Wii > N64 > GCN
 
Total cumulative: Wii = N64 > GCN
 
'''Year 3'''
 
||'''N64 1998'''|'''GCN 2003'''|'''Wii 2008'''
 
1080° Snowboarding|1080° Avalanche|''Animal Crossing: City Folk''
 
Banjo-Kazooie|F-Zero GX|''Endless Ocean''
 
Cruis'n World|''Kirby Air Ride''|Mario Kart Wii
 
F-1 World Grand Prix|The Legend of Zelda: The Wind Waker|Mario Super Sluggers
 
F-Zero X|Mario Golf: Toadstool Tour|Super Smash Bros. Brawl
 
Kobe Bryant in NBA Courtside|Mario Kart: Double Dash!!|Wario Land: Shake It!
 
The Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time|''Mario Party 5''|''Wii Fit''
 
Star Wars: Rogue Squadron|''Pokémon Channel''|''Wii Music''
 
Walalae Country Club: True Golf Classics|Wario World|
 
Yoshi's Story| |
 
'''10 traditional'''|'''6 traditional'''|'''4 traditional'''
 
25 cumulative|15 cumulative|14 cumulative
 
'''0 nontraditional'''|'''3 nontraditional'''|'''4 nontraditional'''
 
0 cumulative|6 cumulative|9 cumulative||
 
Plus these 2008 WiiWare games from Nintendo:
 
ArtStyle: ORBIENT
 
ArtStyle: (Unknown)
 
ArtStyle: (Unknown)
 
Dr. Mario RX Online
 
Magnetica Twist
 
''My Pokémon Ranch''
 
'''Year 4'''
 
||'''N64 1999'''|'''GCN 2004'''|'''Wii 2009'''
 
Command and Conquer|Custom Robo|
 
Donkey Kong 64|Donkey Konga|
 
Jet Force Gemini|Final Fantasy: Crystal Chronicles|
 
Ken Griffey Jr.'s Slugfest|The Legend of Zelda: Four Swords Adventures|
 
Kobe Bryant in NBA Courtside 2|Mario Party 6|
 
Mario Golf|Mario Power Tennis|
 
Mario Party|Metroid Prime 2: Echoes|
 
The New Tetris|Paper Mario: The Thousand-Year Door|
 
Pokémon Snap|Pikmin 2|
 
Star Wars Episode One: Racer|Pokémon Box Ruby and Sapphire|
 
Super Smash Bros.|Pokémon Colosseum|
 
|WarioWare Inc.: Mega Party Game$|
 
'''X traditional'''|'''X traditional'''|'''X traditional'''
 
X cumulative|X cumulative|X cumulative
 
'''X nontraditional'''|'''X nontraditional'''|'''X nontraditional'''
 
X cumulative|X cumulative|X cumulative||
 
'''Year 5'''
 
||'''N64 2000'''|'''GCN 2005'''|'''Wii 2010'''
 
Banjo Tooie|Battalion Wars|
 
Cruis'n Exotica|Dance Dance Revolution: Mario Mix|
 
Excitebike 64|Donkey Kong Jungle Beat|
 
Hey You, Pikachu!|Donkey Konga 2|
 
Kirby 64: The Crystal Shards|Fire Emblem: Path of Radiance|
 
The Legend of Zelda: Majora's Mask|Geist|
 
Mario Party 2|Mario Party 7|
 
Mario Tennis 64|Mario Superstar Baseball|
 
Mickey's Speedway USA|Pokémon XD: Gale of Darkness|
 
Perfect Dark|Star Fox: Assault|
 
Pokémon Puzzle League|Super Mario Strikers|
 
Pokémon Stadium| |
 
Ridge Racer 64| |
 
StarCraft| |
 
'''X traditional'''|'''X traditional'''|'''X traditional'''
 
X cumulative|X cumulative|X cumulative
 
'''X nontraditional'''|'''X nontraditional'''|'''X nontraditional'''
 
X cumulative|X cumulative|X cumulative||
 
'''Year 6'''
 
||'''N64 2001'''|'''GCN 2006'''|'''Wii 2011'''
 
Conker's Bad Fur Day|Baten Kaitos Origins|
 
Dr. Mario|Chibi-Robo|
 
Mario Party 3|The Legend of Zelda: Twilight Princess|
 
Pokémon Stadium 2|Odama|
 
'''X traditional'''|'''X traditional'''|'''X traditional'''
 
X cumulative|X cumulative|X cumulative
 
'''X nontraditional'''|'''X nontraditional'''|'''X nontraditional'''
 
X cumulative|X cumulative|X cumulative||

Latest revision as of 22:39, 16 April 2023

-Original GCN/Wii through second holiday comparison

For some people's complaints about Nintendo not focusing on "real" games enough, it seems they've got more than they did with GamCube, even before we know what they'll show at E3.  For GameCube I think I've got all NOA-released titles for 2001 and 2002.  For Wii I've listed titles with 2007 NOA release dates.

Series showing up on both; a wash

||Mario Party 4|Mario Party 8

Metroid Prime|Metroid Prime 3: Corruption

Super Mario Sunshine|Super Mario Galaxy

2 traditional|2 traditional

1 nontraditional|1 nontraditional||

GameCube vs Wii

||Animal Crossing|Battalion Wars 2

Eternal Darkness: Sanity's Requiem|Big Brain Academy: Wii Degree

Luigi's Mansion|Donkey Kong Barrel Blast

Magical Mirror Starring Mickey Mouse|Excite Truck

NBA Courtside 2002|Fire Emblem

Pikmin|The Legend of Zelda: Twilight Princess

Star Fox Adventures|Mario Strikers Charged

Super Smash Bros. Melee|Pokémon Battle Revolution

Wave Race: Blue Storm|Super Paper Mario

|WarioWare: Smooth Moves

|Wii Play

|Wii Sports

7 traditional|8 traditional

2 nontraditional|4 nontraditional||

Total

||GameCube|Wii

9 traditional|10 traditional

3 nontraditional|5 nontraditional||

Italicizing those titles that frequently get derided for being nongames, kiddy games, or minigame fests by the hardcore, Wii leads GameCube on both counts.

---

-Yearly Comparisons

I above combined things in 2001+2002 and 2006+2007 to talk about overall statistics, but here's how things would be split between years and not sticking series showing up on both into a separate category.

Year 1

||N64 1996|GCN 2001|Wii 2006

Cruis'n USA|Luigi's Mansion|Excite Truck

Killer Instinct Gold|Pikmin|The Legend of Zelda: Twilight Princess

Pilotwings 64|Super Smash Bros. Melee|Wii Sports

Star Wars: Shadows of the Empire|Wave Race: Blue Storm|

Super Mario 64| |

Wave Race 64: Kawasaki Jet Ski| |

6 traditional|4 traditional|2 traditional

0 nontraditional|0 nontraditional|1 nontraditional||

N64 > GameCube > Wii in total and traditional.  Worth noting N64 was out two more months than GCN and Wii the first year.

Year 2

||N64 1997|GCN 2002|Wii 2007

Blast Corps|Animal Crossing|Battalion Wars 2

Bomberman 64|Eternal Darkness: Sanity's Requiem|Big Brain Academy: Wii Degree

Cruis'n World|Magical Mirror Starring Mickey Mouse|Donkey Kong Barrel Blast

Diddy Kong Racing|Mario Party 4|Fire Emblem

GoldenEye 007|Metroid Prime|Mario Party 8

Mario Kart 64|NBA Courtside 2002|Mario Strikers Charged

Mischief Makers|Star Fox Adventures|Metroid Prime 3: Corruption

Star Fox 64|Super Mario Sunshine|Pokémon Battle Revolution

Tetrisphere| |Super Mario Galaxy

| |Super Paper Mario

| |WarioWare: Smooth Moves

| |Wii Play

9 traditional|5 traditional|8 traditional

15 cumulative|9 cumulative|10 cumulative

0 nontraditional|3 nontraditional|4 nontraditional

0 cumulative|3 cumulative|5 cumulative||

Traditional for the year: N64 > Wii > GCN

Traditional cumulative: N64 > Wii > GCN

Nontraditional for the year: Wii > GCN > N64

Nontraditional cumulative: Wii > GCN > N64

Total for the year: Wii > N64 > GCN

Total cumulative: Wii = N64 > GCN

Year 3

||N64 1998|GCN 2003|Wii 2008

1080° Snowboarding|1080° Avalanche|Animal Crossing: City Folk

Banjo-Kazooie|F-Zero GX|Endless Ocean

Cruis'n World|Kirby Air Ride|Mario Kart Wii

F-1 World Grand Prix|The Legend of Zelda: The Wind Waker|Mario Super Sluggers

F-Zero X|Mario Golf: Toadstool Tour|Super Smash Bros. Brawl

Kobe Bryant in NBA Courtside|Mario Kart: Double Dash!!|Wario Land: Shake It!

The Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time|Mario Party 5|Wii Fit

Star Wars: Rogue Squadron|Pokémon Channel|Wii Music

Walalae Country Club: True Golf Classics|Wario World|

Yoshi's Story| |

10 traditional|6 traditional|4 traditional

25 cumulative|15 cumulative|14 cumulative

0 nontraditional|3 nontraditional|4 nontraditional

0 cumulative|6 cumulative|9 cumulative||

Plus these 2008 WiiWare games from Nintendo:

ArtStyle: ORBIENT

ArtStyle: (Unknown)

ArtStyle: (Unknown)

Dr. Mario RX Online

Magnetica Twist

My Pokémon Ranch

Year 4

||N64 1999|GCN 2004|Wii 2009

Command and Conquer|Custom Robo|

Donkey Kong 64|Donkey Konga|

Jet Force Gemini|Final Fantasy: Crystal Chronicles|

Ken Griffey Jr.'s Slugfest|The Legend of Zelda: Four Swords Adventures|

Kobe Bryant in NBA Courtside 2|Mario Party 6|

Mario Golf|Mario Power Tennis|

Mario Party|Metroid Prime 2: Echoes|

The New Tetris|Paper Mario: The Thousand-Year Door|

Pokémon Snap|Pikmin 2|

Star Wars Episode One: Racer|Pokémon Box Ruby and Sapphire|

Super Smash Bros.|Pokémon Colosseum|

|WarioWare Inc.: Mega Party Game$|

X traditional|X traditional|X traditional

X cumulative|X cumulative|X cumulative

X nontraditional|X nontraditional|X nontraditional

X cumulative|X cumulative|X cumulative||

Year 5

||N64 2000|GCN 2005|Wii 2010

Banjo Tooie|Battalion Wars|

Cruis'n Exotica|Dance Dance Revolution: Mario Mix|

Excitebike 64|Donkey Kong Jungle Beat|

Hey You, Pikachu!|Donkey Konga 2|

Kirby 64: The Crystal Shards|Fire Emblem: Path of Radiance|

The Legend of Zelda: Majora's Mask|Geist|

Mario Party 2|Mario Party 7|

Mario Tennis 64|Mario Superstar Baseball|

Mickey's Speedway USA|Pokémon XD: Gale of Darkness|

Perfect Dark|Star Fox: Assault|

Pokémon Puzzle League|Super Mario Strikers|

Pokémon Stadium| |

Ridge Racer 64| |

StarCraft| |

X traditional|X traditional|X traditional

X cumulative|X cumulative|X cumulative

X nontraditional|X nontraditional|X nontraditional

X cumulative|X cumulative|X cumulative||

Year 6

||N64 2001|GCN 2006|Wii 2011

Conker's Bad Fur Day|Baten Kaitos Origins|

Dr. Mario|Chibi-Robo|

Mario Party 3|The Legend of Zelda: Twilight Princess|

Pokémon Stadium 2|Odama|

X traditional|X traditional|X traditional

X cumulative|X cumulative|X cumulative

X nontraditional|X nontraditional|X nontraditional

X cumulative|X cumulative|X cumulative||